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games: Skate 2

Skateboarding is the heroic pursuit of motor skills no human could ever need. No control pad is ever going to be like skateboarding, unless you smash it against your elbows until the shockwaves shatter your ribs.

Skate at least made it feel a bit more intuitive, by taking away Tony Hawk’s button-tapping and D-pad controls and letting you use the right thumbstick to flick the board into the basic Ollies, heel flips, Pop Shuv-Its, and… Gravy Dogfights. Not to mention using the shoulder buttons to tweak those basic moves into aerial tricks and grabs.

Skate 2 is pretty much the same deal, but with a completely renovated San Vanelona to play around it. You can now get off your board - although walking around is horrible, because they’ve used the rotate/go forwards controls from the first Resident Evil game. You can set markers and teleport to them, which is great for failing a trick and retrying it dozens of times.

The tricks are hard, especially the advanced ones but even the basics aren’t easy. For example, it’s really fussy about whether you connect with a rail for grinding, and because the right thumbstick controls the board, you’ve got to trust the game to give you a helpful camera angle. Which it often fails to do.

Sometimes it can be so frustrating you may just want to bite a towel as hard as you can, and pretend it’s a skateboarder’s face. But, if you’re inclined to fight through the long hours of weeping, screaming and punching yourself everywhere you can reach, the eventual satisfaction of chaining a few tricks is enough to make you start kissing that very same towel.

Of course, if you’ve played the first game, you’ll be able to transplant your muscle memories directly into this one. It’s not a huge evolution - hand plants and walking don’t make a new game - but with a video editor, a sound multiplayer, and a new town to play in, Skate 2 does iron out a few of niggly wrinkles that made Skate fall short of perfection.

Perhaps they’ve got to think about more new things to do for the next game - because that Tony Hawk points-decline is all about people resenting forking out money for the same game over and over again.

Skate 2 gets one thumb up!

IGN:
When EA Black Box dropped Skate onto store shelves in September 2007, it not only put up the first real competition for the long-time king Tony Hawk franchise, but wiped the floor with it. Selling twice as many copies as Activision’s near decade-old series, it was a big hit with gamers due in large part to its Fight Night-inspired Flickit control system where the right analog stick was used to perform most of your moves.

TeamBox:
When EA first released Skate, there was skepticism that it could challenge the reign that Activision’s Tony Hawk series had over the genre. After it was released, though, that concern turned to praise, not only that there’d be more skateboarding titles on market for enthusiasts to enjoy, but that it did such a good job challenging the status quo with some different attitudes and approaches to gameplay.

1 UP:
Having the skating-game genre all to itself this time around, Skate 2 presents an interesting proposition as a sequel to an experience defined by its novelty. No longer tied to serving as a brutally successful experiment in virtual phys ed (that I absolutely loved), Skate 2 rolls with its realism and builds itself out as a bigger, more thorough skateboarding sim than its antecedent — and seemingly, a more casual one. Skate is now about skating, not learning how to do so. It’s not necessarily a better game as a result, but it’s unquestionably one worth playing.

comments

Ian
January 27th, 2009 - 5:49pm

That really is a sadly underused ratings device the “shaky fist”.

There are a number of games publishers I’d like to give the “Shaky fist” to; Microsoft - I’m looking at you for pink-slipping ACES Studio.

lawrence
January 27th, 2009 - 5:55pm

h for some reson i have to go to itunes to get the video to play ?

Kim
January 27th, 2009 - 8:55pm

Great review. Really liked the shaky fist!!!

Match
January 27th, 2009 - 10:24pm

nice, getting better. Actually enjoyed this one: less fuss, more to the point and pretty conclusive.
Played the demo of the game twice and from that bit I have to say that I agree with Zoe: Controls need getting used to… and even then having all the tricks on the right stick can make it tough to actually do the trick you want. Doing an Ollie, for example, is Down->Up on the right stick. Sounds easy enough, but when there’s two different tricks with Down->Up and slightly to the left / right, you end up often missing the Ollie and doing those two.
I guess, after a bit more practice that issue will get smaller, but I doubt it will ever disappear.
That said, it’s very rewarding if you actually manage to chain together the tricks you intended without kissing the floor, because you actually feel in control of your skater.

Nice game, and actually the first skating game I consider purchasing ever since Tony Hawk’s first or second one.

Match
January 27th, 2009 - 10:25pm

Oh, and btw: I’ve asked this a few times when Katharine was doing the show, but how about adding a fullscreen option to the video player? It’s a bit impractical to download the video just to have it play in fullscreen.

January 28th, 2009 - 1:37pm

Working on it Match!

Jim
January 28th, 2009 - 3:56pm

The first skate was brilliant. I thought the difficulty level was just right even though it could be frustrating at times. As a former skater myself the feeling of eventually landing something or pulling off a string of tricks makes all the slamming and bailing worthwhile. ‘Skate’ gives you that exact same feeling, and you do get better with practice.

Unfortunately, skate 2 looks too similar to warrant a purchase, and anyway, I have still much to do in skate 1.

Glenn
January 28th, 2009 - 4:56pm

I enjoyed this review, Zoe appear far more comfortable with the subject matter and her delivery was much more relaxed.

I’m glad that she seems to be settling in so quickly. I think many of the comparisons with Katherine are somewhat inappropriate, since she developed her presenting style over many many shows.

Also the change of set is welcome, as it demonstrates that Zoe is her own person and not a replacement Katherine.

Keep up the good work Zoe.

StevenG.
January 29th, 2009 - 12:29am

Agreed. Good show. Much better at this relaxed pace.

Kim
January 29th, 2009 - 2:50pm

Nice review. Totally agree with Glenn & StevenG..

RawSteelUT
January 29th, 2009 - 5:31pm

Fully agreed, Glen. This is a vast improvement even over the FEAR 2 review. Initial fear of her not actually being a game are being slowly eroded.

Schmung
January 29th, 2009 - 11:57pm

Skate 2 is blinding game assuming you get on with it. If you can accept it’s foibles then it’s fun and rewarding and if you’ve got mates then all the better, ‘cos multiplayer is bloody brilliant.

Jim : Skate 2 pretty much fixes everything wrong with the first one and is well worth a purchase IMO. Gone are the days (mostly) of varial heelflip to BS 50-50, now it’s just a fliptrick to a grind - the challenge system finally acknowledging how finickity it is to differentiate between certain things. There are still some slightly broken challenges, but New San Van is awesome and it’s a game well worth your hard earned if you enjoyed the original.

I cannot emphasise how much fun the new multiplayer stuff is though - it does everything right bar using the EA servers which are crotchety and crap and far less reliable than the live servers most other stuff runs on.

January 30th, 2009 - 11:14am

I bought Skate 2, only to find that maybe I should have bought a skateboard instead,

This game does require a lot of time just to get used to the Stick functions, any hints on how to get some really amazing air, to do some really awesome grab tricks, my halfpipe skills are up to Sh%@#

Zoe
January 30th, 2009 - 12:24pm

Hey guys, thanks for the positive comments! It’s good to hear you’re enjoying the reviews so far :)

Podza- if you’re just talking about getting air on ramps etc I found that if you ollie a little earlier it gives you more air.
Worked for me but give it a try and let me know!
x

January 30th, 2009 - 9:28pm

Zoe - just wanna say - you’re totally rock.
You’re doing outstanding work here at the channel - love it!

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