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games: Kane and Lynch: Dead Men

This title has caused quite a controversy online - not so much because of its gameplay, but because of the Gamespot / Jeff Gerstmann furore.

Hopefully followers of the fun will appreciate my ‘Hero’ t-shirt, hand-made especially for Jeff.

Enjoy the show, we tried to be good about the language - mostly! I played K&L on the Xbox 360 for the full online goodness.

-Katharine

comments

JCFG
December 10th, 2007 - 6:34am

Your T-shirt is win, I would buy it. Btw, I think 3 starts is about right. But theres still no real reason to play K&L when you factor in how many, and how good 360 3rd person shooters have gotten in the last year or so.

Schmung
December 10th, 2007 - 9:08am

The whole Gerstmann thing is a rather ugly saga and the waters have been muddied so much by both sides that it’s difficult to know what’s really gone on there. I guess the only positive you can draw from it is that it’s hopefully made people a bit more wary about blindly trusting reviews. That said, if you’re the sort of person who blindly trusts reviews in the first place, you’re probably not going to care too much about the financial realities of the situation.

Crying shame that they rushed it because it’s such a good premise and they’ve clearly spent time on the story and the cinematic aspects. Then they’ve gone and pissed all over it by doing a half arsed job with the combat and movement. Curse you IO!

Oh well, thats forty quid saved, think I’ll use it and get the orange box for the PC instead and see what all the fuss is about.

Pherdnut
December 10th, 2007 - 9:15am

Hmm… This is pretty badass. Good luck and if it’s worth anything, let me know if you folks/folkette could ever use the opinion/advice of a former Game Informer Editor.

Keep up the viral marketing.

tea cosy
December 10th, 2007 - 10:42am

Nice work on the review and shirt.

Thomas
December 10th, 2007 - 2:38pm

Nice review. LOVE THE SHIRT:).

I had no idea about this page until Jeff G’s unfortunate firing. I’ll keep you bookmarked.

December 10th, 2007 - 7:15pm

Where can I get a shirt like that one?

Vengi
December 10th, 2007 - 8:43pm

This was clearly a stunt to get Gamespot forum users to look at your site.

Well It worked :)
I’ve been checking out your reviews and they are very Informative and entertaining.

Have you thought of doing a Multiplayer focused review on Crysis now that we are entering into the slow season?

If you were wondering your mentioned on the Main Jeff Thread on page 719 if your using 20 posts per page.

Final Thought: Great shirt, Viva Jeff! ;)

Norbit
December 10th, 2007 - 11:29pm

I read a rumour a while ago that there are already discussions about making a film of this with Bruce Willis and Billy Bob Thornton and I really hope they do because I think it will work quite well. It looks like it will have a pretty good chance of being that rarest of beasts, a film that is better than the game it was derived from.

On a related note I saw the Hitman film today. Ouch!

BTW am I the only person who thinks the idea Jeff Gerstmann got sacked because of pressure from Eidos is completely ludicrous? It just doesn’t make sense in so many ways.

I reckon he got caught downloading donkey porn. That’s my rumour and I’m sticking with it :)

Katharine
December 11th, 2007 - 5:39am

Thanks for the comments guys, and welcome to any Gamespot viewers who found us via the various fora! (An unintended but fortunate bonus.) Glad you like the shirt, that was a home-made special by Wil and myself; we just wanted to show some support for the ideal of journalistic integrity. :)

Katharine
December 11th, 2007 - 5:40am

Schmung - if you’re choosing between the two, definitely go with Orange Box. Not because K&L is necessarily bad, but because OB is so damn awesome.

WilHarris
December 11th, 2007 - 5:43am

Alex - if you want one, email us ;) wil@channelflip.com .

Katharine
December 11th, 2007 - 7:32am

Vengi - thanks for the suggestion for a show on mp Crysis. Will bear that in mind. :)

Brandon
December 11th, 2007 - 8:27am

Hey Katharine, Just want to say I’ve been watching the show since ep 1 and love it.

Brandon

December 11th, 2007 - 10:35am

So, K, when will you be doing an Uncharted: Drake’s Fortune review?

BTW, your review compelled me to buy Mass Effect. I haven’t put it down in days. I hope you’re happy.

Matches
December 12th, 2007 - 5:33am

too bad K&L isn’t as great as I hoped. I really liked the characters / the setting when they were first introduced. But as I can be quite picky when it comes to gameplay flaws I think I’ll stay clear of this.

I second the motion for a review of Uncharted, btw ;)

Katharine
December 13th, 2007 - 9:24am

Cheers guys - Uncharted review was filmed today and should reach you on Monday! Sorry for the wait, but it only came out here last Friday.

July 6th, 2008 - 1:15am

Finally got around to playing this today and kinda wish I hadn’t bothered. I only lasted about half an hour before I quit. After playing GTA4 and then MGS4 it just feels like a clunky pile of crap.

Spence
November 2nd, 2008 - 2:15am

I would not have played this game where it not for the controversy surrounding it. Now that I have… Id say its not bad. I haven’t gotten through the main quest yet but I’m in the Central America stage…or was it Cuba? In either case it feels like the conclusion is near which means its a short game(6 hrs so far) but an interesting one. The missions are diverse enough that it - at least so far - never gets repetitive or tedious. The characters are refreshingly unusual, the gameplay is flawed but satisfying once you get over the “ass factor” and the story is engaging. I watched Gerstmanns review before knowing anything about him getting fired and before having seen/read any of the more positive reviews on K&L. I thought it was rather odd. He harped so much on the “ugliness” and “dirtiness” of the plot and characters - a hang up that seemed to really cloud his perspective on the game- that the review had very little to say about what the game had on offer, good or bad. He brought up some valid graphical and gameplay issues but overall he seemed to kinda have it in for K&L. I have abundant respect for Gerstmann’s display of journalistic integrity (assuming that factor truly came into play) but it really was a poor review. I thank you Katherine for this much more balanced look at what could be called on of the most controversial games of 07.

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